MKV or AVI(specifically for fansubs)

Ilasir

I'm sure it's been discussed, but I couldn't find the threads.

I'm mkv torrents all the way. I've yet to meet a file that I couldn't get to work with some combo of aegisub, mkvmerge, and vlc.

I also prefer the option of altering subtitle fonts and editing out errors.

kamikazee

Yea why guys??? its better than AVI so why you guys ignoring MP4!! <.<

kamikazee

wolfenspiel is right. I kinda like to think mkv as a archive file (7z, zip, rar, etc). People should support MP4 more than MKV. It's also a hassle to convert a compressed ( or mkv file that a lot of extra crap on it like fonts, sub, images, and language) .mkv file to mp4 or any other format, without extracting the file inside then remux it again.mkv without compression. Then convert it to mp4 (or any file format) :dark:

kamikazee

simple answer

if its a speed sub, then its avi

if its a quality sub, then its mkv

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hmmmm no mp4(for my ps3 and psp)?? lol!

ju_one06

im prefer mkv..
is good format

The_A_Pok

Are we forgetting MP4?

The_A_Pok

Mkv ftw :d

TheWolf

well if this thread is nothing else it IS informative!!!
i've learned more about MKV here than i knew b4!

TheWolf

let's make sure we stay civil here ...

TheWolf

well said zorlax!!!!

Ilasir

Most fansubs groups I've seen include the codec information. The majority of the mkvs I have are h.264 with AAC or FLAC audio. I've never torrented an mkv that had wmv or mp3 encoded stuff in it.

I'm well aware that mkv is a container, but so is avi, and so is mp4.

Ilasir

mp4 is okay, but I prefer mkv, and very few fansubbers release encodes in the mp4 container, anyway.

Ilasir

I despise compression, so I don't give a crap if mkv can't compress down to 125mb. AVI at that size is a piece of junk encode. mp4 is a little bit better, but not much. The only mp4 enccode I have is 1.34gb for the E7 movie that still has artifacts and pixellization.

I've never ever had to download a codek pack, unless you count the ones that come with vlc, so I don't see the issue there either.

Also, mkv can hold more codecs than mp4.

Ilasir

nnnmmm;197922 wrote
Must agree I really hate hardsubs as well. If everything like Xbox 360 and Ps3 could play MKVs there would be no reason for me to turn to AVIs

Lol, it's hilarious how the game companies are making a slow push towards computers with all the new features they put in. It's nice to play dvds on your x-box sometimes, but since my computer can play anything up to and including blu-rays, it's a lot cheaper and more versatile to just buy an hdmi cable to hook it up to the tv.

Ilasir

I hate hardsubs. They screw with the picture a lot, unless you have really big files. I much prefer softsubs. AVI also tends to be lower quality, though obviously you can have a high quality file if you encode it right. But I don't care about file size so much, so I don't want re-encodes or anything that brings down quality. Since I play things from my laptop on vlc if I want to display on a tv, I also don't care about hardware compatibilities, though I have the software to convert to avi with hardsubs if absolutely necessary.

Since I can't stand errors or some of the more egregious styling, like different colors for different characters, I like to be able to change the styles, and avi just can't do that.

Beyond that, fansub groups are switching away from avi containers, so unless I want a crappy re-encoding, I can't get an avi file anyway.

Ilasir

I guess the "(specifically for fansubbing)" slipped past you?

How many people watch fansubs on physical players? PSP? Oh, almost none, that's right...

nnnmmm

Ilasir;198318 wrote
I despise compression, so I don't give a crap if mkv can't compress down to 125mb. AVI at that size is a piece of junk encode. mp4 is a little bit better, but not much. The only mp4 enccode I have is 1.34gb for the E7 movie that still has artifacts and pixellization.

I've never ever had to download a codek pack, unless you count the ones that come with vlc, so I don't see the issue there either.

Also, mkv can hold more codecs than mp4.

Yeah I pretty much agree. There's a reason why just about any movie you download in HD is in MKV format.

nnnmmm

Must agree I really hate hardsubs as well. If everything like Xbox 360 and Ps3 could play MKVs there would be no reason for me to turn to AVIs

dxnwo

Depends. With avi, you rarely need to download some nonsensical codec pack like cccp. I do my best to avoid mkv but if it's the only format done by one group subbing the anime, no choice there.

Mkv is just the poor man's mp4 as a format due to it's only endearing feature which is holding the h264 codec. Even stand alone physical media players will play avi and mp4 but mkv? Probably gets a shrug. MP4 due to it's compression capabilities plus the wide-spread use by the broadcasting community gives it a superior edge. Well, I wont forget the psp plug for the fanboys. Try compressing a 25 minute anime under 125 mb using mkv. Only 1 sub group was able to pull it off, forgot which one but it involves an anime series with a really hot chick in it, some detective stuff. Overall, I collect the avi version aside from the hi-def version, especially if it comes down to 2 fansub groups who are well-known and they both are subbing an anime at the same time.

dxnwo

Ilasir;198318 wrote
I despise compression, so I don't give a crap if mkv can't compress down to 125mb. AVI at that size is a piece of junk encode. mp4 is a little bit better, but not much. The only mp4 enccode I have is 1.34gb for the E7 movie that still has artifacts and pixellization.

I've never ever had to download a codek pack, unless you count the ones that come with vlc, so I don't see the issue there either.

Also, mkv can hold more codecs than mp4.

But can MKV be played on a stand-alone physical player? PSP? MP4 is used in my industry Hollywood CA, even when transmitting HD shows through the internet.

Can MKV do that? Is Call of Duty in MKV? How many movies on bittorent or downloads in HD are in MKV? It's either avi or mp4.

thought so...